@exiliaex they understand who keeps them fed and sheltered and they can tell that your self respect would ruin their ability to keep serving those above them so they preserve their position because they're not capable of escaping it
@exiliaex the complaints from the state is just it's way of broadcasting the script to all who want to align themselves with it's power so they can repeat it as a show of force. no one actually engages with this stuff on the level of reasoning, these complaints being compelling to someone is basically always someone doing some social calculus and determining that they want to be at peace with the society they exist in and then pushing back at you the agitator
Marx's "The Civil War in France" has a lot that is still very relevant today. change some words here and there and it's identical. like we've been trapped in a loop.
"The government cries, “Incendiarism!” and whispers this cue to all its agents, down to the remotest hamlet, to hunt up its enemies everywhere as suspect of professional incendiarism. The bourgeoisie of the whole world, which looks complacently upon the wholesale massacre after the battle, is convulsed by horror at the desecration of brick and mortar!
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The Commune knew that its opponents cared nothing for the lives of the Paris people, but cared much for their own Paris buildings.
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If the acts of the Paris working men were vandalism, it was the vandalism of defence in despair, not the vandalism of triumph, like that which the Christians perpetrated upon the really priceless art treasures of heathen antiquity;and even that vandalism has been justified by the historian as an unavoidable and comparatively trifling concomitant to the titanic struggle between a new society arising and an old one breaking down. It was still less the vandalism of Haussman, razing historic Paris to make place for the Paris of the sightseer!"
https://marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/civil-war-france/ch06.htm
@exiliaex love to lay the structure for antisemitic fables by implying there is an outside force hypnotizing our flock to it's ruin
they would rather call you all violent terrorists for standing up to genocide while amassing organized terror forces to pry into every private part of your life, violently rip you from your home, and force you to pay them for the honor of them judging whether you deserve prison
embarrassing, cowardly, lazy, abusive, all to keep around braindead opportunists who arent capable of understanding what's wrong with bigotry so they just pick the more righteous team
you can talk about a trans dude transitioning in part due to misogyny but the thing that affects trans women doesnt exist, why are you talking about it even, are you an MRA?
@exiliaex it's a threat to tell you that they speak for you. people recognize there's power in speaking for others because the more people you can speak for, presumably the greater the violence you can wield over others. when a pig says they're defending "the city" they know that the city includes you despite you being at odds with them, but it's also a way to highlight you as being something other to "the city" if the defenders of the city are against you. its incoherent doublespeak nonsense because parsing doublespeak is like getting hit with a flashbang in that it's too overwhelming for most people to know how to respond to and they just get to sit there grinning stupidly with their gibberish slogans
@exiliaex of course, it's just so infuriating that you're looked at as insane if you call the destruction of habitat violent. their homes make the world a better place to live in while the tombs humans call houses are a blight on the land around them
@exiliaex there's more good reasons to demolish that guy's home than he had for that tree but that would be violence where this is just yard care
@reiko @ViciouslyKind value is another one of these words for me but that's a different convo lol
@reiko @ViciouslyKind often people use these words loaded with multiple meanings to do a kind of bait and switch thing (usually completely unintentionally) so i try to go out of my way to make sure people are on the same page with the definition of a word. one of the easiest tells that someone's on some bullshit is when they react negatively to clarifying questions (usually assuming you're implying something so they can talk for you)
@ViciouslyKind @reiko not sure what the distinction is here then i think
@ViciouslyKind @reiko when kids are pushed to go to school under threat of truancy are they being trafficked?
@reiko any word that carries moral weight gets hurled around by illiterates trying to affect the behavior of the ethically impaired until it's reduced into good or bad, yes or no, a simple signal in a machine
@reiko trafficking was one of those terms i could never feel like i had a solid definition of as a kid, people either used it differently from each other or used it super imprecisely (or god forbid refer to legal definitions) and now as an adult i can recognize that when there are terms that are like that it's because people are trying to cover for something fucked up
@exiliaex i need to finish an argument on there and post about the road trip but i'm really just waiting on everyone to move to some other platform, it doesnt work anymore
grinding to disappear