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I don't support electoralism in general, the US is an illegitimate genocidal empire, Kopmala, Gaza, etc., but also I think all the people who are saying that we just need to do a heckin revolution are either naive or delusional. we needed to be building an organized left two fucking decades ago at the very least when the Patriot Act got passed, and instead no one has been doing shit and the left in the US is absolutely not prepared to do anything serious like that. you can't just manifest a revolutionary force out of thin air capable of winning a war with the most powerful military on earth lmao.

I think the 2020 riots gave a pretty good gauge of where the US is at politically and from what I've heard about some local stuff that went down which I will not get into the specifics of, the chances of any serious shit going down has repeatedly been kneecapped by adventurist white middle class leftoid idiots who can show up to happenings, larp as revolutionaries and escalate shit way too early, and then go home or not face any serious consequences since they have no serious investment in any of this. there is some vague sense of younger generations supporting further left politics but nothing yet in the US that is capable of turning that into anything useful.

the student demonstrations for Palestine also have given me some hope that this is changing and that people are attempting to take things seriously, and honestly I wasn't at all expecting amerikans to be capable of giving a fuck about a colonial genocide happening in some foreign country. but things are still in the early stages so who knows.

anyway fuck KKKamala HarriSS but also another four years of the US slowly sliding into fascism rather than immediately falling off the cliff might give some time for the subjective forces to continue to develop. unlike when Biden won, I don't think anyone is under the delusion anymore that we're gonna just be able to return to a complacent normalcy and that Trump's first term will have been a fluke.

oh also I'm not saying you gotta heckin voot blue no matter who or some shit, let the centrist normies voot. the left should be focused on regionalist organizing. this is just my take on where we're at right now. also I honestly just think it would be funny if Trump lost.

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@nyx honestly, I don't think the main impediment to building anything is as much the random people who escalate without anything to back it up as much as the vast class of "professional organizers" who are allergic to the complications of any material victory and are far more invested in meaningless recruitment or getting people symbolically arrested and dependent on their orgs bail fund than forging coalitions or integrating into any organic expression of rebellion. I can't think of a single struggle since 2017 that has not been internally divided and pacified from snowballing into larger actions by this like NGO trained professional managerial class face fronted by official marginalized leaders, who are more than happy to lead contingents of organizers and people who want to feel like they are affecting something while being lead into photo-op's on one hand and collaborate with the police on the other, and as it stands, hold something of a monopoly on stable, easily reachable, organizations.

This is personal speculation but, the lack of immediate response to address who can afford to rebel keeps the situation fucked, who can afford to fight is a huge factor, which is why escalation seems to happen either from people with nothing to lose, people with lots of privileges who want their 5 mins of fame (who get cynically blamed for all escalation), or people who feel deeply embedded within communities capable of care or continuing struggle.

It feels like such a dire situation it makes me (mildly) sympathetic to the people who uphold the FARJ platformist/especifist model to at least replicate a bond professionally integrated model of organization

I'm sure this is context dependent, but it seems to me like there is essentially a whole class of people who parasitize off of the fractional energy created by making a strong division between elements of resistant and marginalized communities

I think the most inspired example in the us currently is taking place with the continual shifting resistances and sabotage from indigenous communities, which I think the Palestinian liberation resistance was at least partially modeled on

re: serious USpol commentary 

@0utside0utsider ah, yeah I forgot about the professional activists because I was thinking about a specific example where that wasn't a factor. but yeah, that's partly my point is that there there are these peripheral communities that engage in some kind of rebellion or struggle because they just have no other options, but having your back up against the wall just trying to survive doesn't make for a good revolutionary base or whatever when these same groups get subverted whenever their struggles end up getting more public visibility.

this is the same problem though imo is that whether it's a broadly organizing or trying to organize around the liberation of marginalized groups, there's just like, no one building anything that is resilient enough to withstand being subverted by the liberal activist class, let alone anything with real material power.
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@nyx @0utside0utsider

Nothing is resilient enough to both withstand being subverted by the NGO complex and be able to survive the police state. Otherwise it would happen. We can no more effect change in society for the better than the enslaved Black population in the US or the colonized Siberians in Russia could. All you can do is find a way to escape and form your own little life somehow.

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