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I am firmly, and always will be in the "receipts" camp.

You don't need to have receipts for not liking someone or for not meshing vibes, you and your personal friend group is yours to determine.

THE moment you begin to make serious allegations about others' behavior and advocating for their belonging or exile from a space, you had better have some real reasons for that which can be demonstrated with evidence.

It is SO easy to fabricate lies and manipulate framing on the internet by strategically removing or changing context and by building off of past controversy (regardless of the truth of previous controversy).

As someone whose online reputation has been repeatedly distorted with entirely false allegations (half the internet is convinced I'm the Walter White of Estrogen,) I think we would all be better off if we simply realized that rumors and hearsay are not good enough baselines of evidence.

It really is very easy for the totally understandable desire for safe and functional social spaces to spiral out of control into severely damaging social policing based on invented or twisted narratives.

We do ourselves a disservice by holding a low bar for evidence of bad behavior. We should be willing to apply healthy and careful analysis of claims, especially in minority spaces in an era of mass libels against minority groups.

@DemonMama Amplified hearsay actually can be enough. Cf. QAnon. J6. Christianity. Mormonism.
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@DemonMama I can't tell you how many times I've had to tell someone to fuck off and stop trying to say that you are some awful secret nazi streamer

it's been a point of contention between myself and a few friends. I once even posted "DemonMama's intro is such a banger" and someone went into a screed about how DM is evil and shouldn't be trusted and refused to let me decide this for myself, and as you mention, this almost never had receipts that substantiate that.

If i remember correctly it was usually in relation to Vaush, when I know for a fact that, for example, you called out Vaush's users in participating in a smear campaign against Kat Blaque.

It's wild to see the parallels of what you go through on such a big platform vs what I go through here, almost like it points to a flaw in leftist culture or something

@eris the weird guilt-by-association (if thats even the right term) and crypto allegations really get under my skin because they're so, so removed from the reality of what I do and advocate for.

the vast majority of my content is focused on antifascism, deeply critical of reactionary thought, and specifically trying to get people thinking on how we can push back against nazi/fash messaging.

The current broad lefty and liberal political spaces have made it clear to me that I am not accepted there and that they are more than willing to repeat and launder even truly farfetched claims about me simply because I don't align with certain pre-existing and established cliques, especially those which fixate on performed purity.

@DemonMama it's funny isn't it? Our transfemme experience urges us to take up space, form our own opinions, form our own communities and networks, but while this should only threaten nazis, it's the leftists who tear us down. The ignorance

@eris @DemonMama ever since that time Obama deported MF Doom and the left was just like "OH HELL FUCKING YAH SLAY KING!" anyway I just made this face 😏 and now I'm always making that face because lol wtf. Like how can you take yourself seriously if you made puppy eyes at the O man after he deported MF Doom ffs.
A stupid example to be sure but the concept applies all over. There is a line, either you're cool with the left deporting MF Doom or you aren't.

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a. yes, statically because you know Obama literally did that so there was one vote for it at least...

b. what is that thing people are saying about journalist and leftist that are still on fascist twitter dot com? It's not that none of them cared, it's that none of them actually gave a single shit? 💅

Like what are their ideals and lip service actually worth to them? Oh absolutely nothing right.

@eris @DemonMama @B_Whitewind Tankies, by any chance? (Or edgelords, which are really just the chrysalis stage of tankies?)

@B_Whitewind @eris @DemonMama obama isn’t the left though? he’s somewhat less right wing then some other democrats but thats about all we can say for him

@eris @DemonMama "It's wild to see the parallels of what you go through on such a big platform vs what I go through here, almost like it points to a flaw in leftist culture or something"

There is no purely technological fix for a social problem.

I wouldn't blame it on leftist culture per se, more on leftism within a capitalist system being inevitably prone to rightist/authoritarian patterns of behaviour taking root within it.

@DemonMama: Walter White of estrogen? That's ludicrous! Everybody knows that estrogen should take the form of pink rock candy, not the blue one.

@DemonMama i think that if someone was the walter white of estrogen, they would be cool as fuck

@DemonMama wait, maybe you should be the Walter White of Estrogen. This is seen as a bad thing??

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bein called a walter white of estrogen aged poorly considering plenty of states banned HRT and im pretty sure people would rather take a shot (haha) at home made treatment than FUCKING DYING.

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