@eris I honestly dont think what he's saying is THAT bad it should ruin him. The deathcon thing was but he regrets and apologized for it, and I genuinelly believe he regrets it. Yes he's being edgy but ultimately he's not calling for anyone to be hurt, and he's been edgy in his personal life for a long time.
I think people just don't like thinking he holds these opinions, so they use it as an excuse, same with the trump thing. There's nothing insane there, lots of people supported him. But not it's BPD or something. Or becoming Christian. People don't like hollywood celebrities thinking like this, sot they redeem him in their mind as mentally ill, which like, he is, but thats not really the BPD giving him those views, thats just a cope, he seems to actually think these things, not just be calling for attention. So far so good he doesn't intend on harming anybody, super godfearing in this, so its whatever.

@maija @eris not THAT bad? Are you aware of his interview on Infowars?

@destroy @eris yes i watched it and he repeatedly emphasized he doesn't hate jews and he even loves zionists based on his biblical interpretation of loving everybody
did YOU watch it?

@maija @destroy yeah don't be like that, he also said jews run the banks and that the world is run by a small handful of zionists, he was absolutely perpetuating anti-semitism

@eris @maija @destroy Didn't he straight up say that the holocaust didn't happen and that Hitler was an especially good person?

@Sovereign_Beast @maija @destroy He was basically like "I love everyone, everyone has some good in them, I love Hitler, nazis were just defending their country."

I think his intention was a Christian "unconditional love" thing, but he just took it to a weird level while sprinkling in "jews run the world" discourse and it was pretty fucked

I dont consider him to be an actual fascist, just really ignorant, but I don't get Mays need to go to bat for him, like let him take the fall it's okay

@maija @eris @Sovereign_Beast what could get you to consider him to be an actual fascist? Would he have to just openly declare himself to be a fascist? Do you think people can’t become fascists from a place of ignorance?

@destroy @eris @Sovereign_Beast well is he advocating for a highly centralized capitalist dictatorship with strict regulation and a war focused society? no. he's pro democracy still. american.
he's having some shitty views but if you call anything fascist, then fascisms as a whole becomes more acceptable connotation wise ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@maija @destroy @Sovereign_Beast idk about that, there's a concept called proto-fascism that applies to what Ye is doing.

"Proto-fascism refers to the direct predecessor ideologies and cultural movements that influenced and formed the basis of fascism."

In this case it would be Christianity combined with anti-semitic conspiracy theories and urging for more authoritarian government, he's laying down the foundations of fascism and that is dangerous.

@eris @Sovereign_Beast @destroy thats a fair point indeed, though he is one guy, doing as others have done before
not to say that its ok just that im not so concerned as if say, an actually powerful politician turned for example