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He can be held accountable for what he says without it having anything to do with his bipolar disorder
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I think people just don't like thinking he holds these opinions, so they use it as an excuse, same with the trump thing. There's nothing insane there, lots of people supported him. But not it's BPD or something. Or becoming Christian. People don't like hollywood celebrities thinking like this, sot they redeem him in their mind as mentally ill, which like, he is, but thats not really the BPD giving him those views, thats just a cope, he seems to actually think these things, not just be calling for attention. So far so good he doesn't intend on harming anybody, super godfearing in this, so its whatever.
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I think his intention was a Christian "unconditional love" thing, but he just took it to a weird level while sprinkling in "jews run the world" discourse and it was pretty fucked
I dont consider him to be an actual fascist, just really ignorant, but I don't get Mays need to go to bat for him, like let him take the fall it's okay
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@maija @eris @Sovereign_Beast what could get you to consider him to be an actual fascist? Would he have to just openly declare himself to be a fascist? Do you think people can’t become fascists from a place of ignorance?
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"Proto-fascism refers to the direct predecessor ideologies and cultural movements that influenced and formed the basis of fascism."
In this case it would be Christianity combined with anti-semitic conspiracy theories and urging for more authoritarian government, he's laying down the foundations of fascism and that is dangerous.
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not to say that its ok just that im not so concerned as if say, an actually powerful politician turned for example
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You might wanna play devils advocate but all that's really going to do is bring a lot to hate on you and on my instance and I really wish you would not
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@eris @Sovereign_Beast @maija he’s literally a billionaire celebrity he’s not ur fuckin cousin at the barbecue
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is he really pro-democracy? Where does he say that? Everything I’ve seen him say regarding politics the past few years shows he wants God’s Law to reign in America and that necessarily precludes democracy.
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@maija @eris @destroy @Sovereign_Beast this is fascist apologia, open and shut. fascists have routinely described themselves as "pro-democracy"
look at carl schmitt! he described the mechanism by which the state "suspends the law to protect the law" years before nazi germany occurred! fascism springs from the centralized nature of bourgeois democracy!
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anyway i ordered pizza its the weekend baybeee lessgooo
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@maija @eris @destroy @Sovereign_Beast just to be extra super clear: the things that fascists advocate for prior to their existence are not "which form the economy should take" or explicitly talking about a "capitalist dictatorship" or a "war focused society"
the birth of fascism corresponds with rhetoric that calls for a rise in the level of militant nationalist political activism in the streets, usually by "removing" the internal hurdles in their own party (the moderate conservatives who are explicitly not on board with the rising group's power) and by way of pointing to members of society who are "responsible" for the failure of society: historically and today this group includes but is not limited to jews, queers, non-whites...
ye was exhibiting literally all of this. and so was everyone around him.
stop downplaying it.
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@destroy @maija @eris @Sovereign_Beast in the interview he LITERALLY said “I am a nazi” people downplaying his shit are just enabling
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@eris @maija @destroy @Sovereign_Beast it was near the third hour when alex jones was getting most visibly agitated might have been before the ad break at the end of the 2nd hour
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he's having some shitty views but if you call anything fascist, then fascisms as a whole becomes more acceptable connotation wise ¯\_(ツ)_/¯