@DemonMama i think the closest thing you can get to a substantial thing to talk about out of the left mra stuff is talking about how the way people internalize slogans leads to weird group behavior. leftists will point out about how reactionaries making racist jokes leads to actual animosity towards brown people but be blind to it with their own jokes about hating men. often the people making the joke at least on the leftist side of things are more or less really joking, but the dumbest people in their audience kind of just roll with it and internalize it unconsciously. they can do weird men hating behaviors and then fall back to that they're joking. there's a lot of other examples of this that could be interesting to talk about too though i dont really care about it too much because i dont really care about leftism and leftist spaces and think it's kinda funny when they hurt themselves in confusion