@unmind @nyx imagine not clinging extremely hard to an excuse to wear makeup and grow out your hair and wear women’s clothing and also shave your body hair(yes mom that’s definitely part of it too I don’t make the rules)

@destroy @unmind for me it was wanting to grow my hair long like a thrash metalhead lmao. because I hadn't gotten into goth yet (which is where I really got the gateway into experimenting with gender presentation with makeup and whatnot) and was like very deeply neurotically repressed, but there was still a part of me that was like aha but what if I grew my hair out really long in a totally normal cis way aha (she didn't know)

@nyx @destroy i wanted to grow my hair out like an anime boy

@nyx @destroy @unmind real, i grew my hair out as a teen for the same reason lmao. i still kinda consider my hair to be almost as much a metalhead thing as it is an expression of femininity tbh

@swampwitch @destroy @unmind god that's so fucking real lol I feel the same way

@swampwitch @nyx @destroy @unmind i grew my hair out originally to be able to properly headbang and stand apart from all the short-haired sXe hardcore kids in my hs, but as soon as it hit shoulder-length i developed this massive anxiety about ever having short hair again. also got "ma'am'd" a lot and it didn't bother me at all. normal cis behavior.

@nyx @unmind @rowb1t @swampwitch straightedge ruined the reputation of the whole punk subculture in so many high schools in the 2000s lmao

@destroy @unmind @rowb1t @swampwitch I hate how this is like exactly applicable to me lmao

@destroy @nyx @unmind @swampwitch i just thought it was so ridiculous. it's like... y'all are minors. not doing drugs or drinking is just the default. i didn't even drink back then but i still made fun of the sXe kids for that reason, despite the fact i was deep in the hardcore scene at the time -- mostly because there was no metal scene to speak of.

@nyx @rowb1t @swampwitch @unmind I was in the emo scene, which included a lot of punk and metal. I mean it was kind of defined by the crossover thanks to post-hardcore and metalcore bands being like half of the scene (as opposed to the MCR and Panic at the Disco half)

@nyx @swampwitch @rowb1t @unmind

it was definitely hilarious that they were 16 year old rebelswho defined themselves by following the rules

@destroy @swampwitch @rowb1t @unmind in my defense all my friends were stoners and I've always been susceptible to being a contrarian for no real reason

@unmind @swampwitch @nyx @rowb1t I know you’re a contrarian, you huff ether instead of doing literally anything else

@destroy @unmind @swampwitch @rowb1t I do other things >_<

@swampwitch @rowb1t @nyx @unmind trans women love to do research chemicals instead of just taking ketamine or a xan

@nyx @unmind tbh you give deeply neurotically repressed vibes still which is funny considering how much of an epicurian libertine you actually are

@destroy @nyx idk if there's much of a conflict between these two things

@unmind @destroy me.. neurotically repressed?? aha never,,

@nyx @destroy @unmind i am in this picture rn and i dont like it. "still cis tho™️"

Except its more complicated bc im mentally fucked