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@aud @jalcine @vantablack how am i supposed to interpret “i don’t give a fuck about how a racist identifies” other than deliberately deciding that respecting gender identity is a matter of good will?

@jalcine @vantablack @aud he literally didn’t back down from it where did he ever back down?

@aud it’s not about the accidental misgendering it’s about saying David doesn’t deserve to be gendered correctly

@aud @vantablack @jalcine it’s not about an accidental misgendering it’s about the stance that David’s gender is something that doesn’t need to be respected

@aud how are you not saying that? If it doesn’t matter if you misgender a trans person who is harassing you how is gender not simply revocable?

@vantablack @jalcine @aud i’m comparing it to racial slurs. and it isn’t unknowingly anymore. Ro has been saying that misgendering someone isn’t wrong.

@aud you’re actively engaging in anti-trans activities by saying gender is a gift given by other people to trans people they respect

@aud so what other kinds of bigotry are fine if it’s against a harasser?

@vantablack @jalcine @aud he literally said he doesn’t respect David’s identity or humanity I don’t know how much more clear it can be?

@jalcine @vantablack that’s the exact problem. He *did* misgender intentionally to cause harm and won’t even apologize. The posts I see in the screenshots are textbook transphobia, where gender is wielded as a weapon against a trans person.

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@FinalOverdrive @eris if that shared struggle is a thin reed that you can’t build a useful movement with then what the hell is supposed to be the binding agent between oppressed and oppressor sharing struggle like you want to build?

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@FinalOverdrive @eris You’re assuming a lot of things I never said just because I don’t believe that trans women shouldn’t work in groups that aren’t interested in their liberation. All I’m asking is that other people extend intersectionality to us for once.

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@FinalOverdrive @eris until people start actually working with trans women yeah

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@eris @FinalOverdrive No one will advocate for trans women but ourselves. When you work in a struggle that doesn’t consider trans women as an equal priority you’re not struggling towards our liberation you’re simply becoming a footstool for someone else’s empowerment.

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@eris @FinalOverdrive Yeah I’ll work with other people the moment they start treating trans women as equals. Haven’t seen it yet though

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@eris @FinalOverdrive She never subordinated the struggle of women to the struggle of men. None of the people you mentioned did. And similarly, I won’t subordinate the liberation of trans women to be secondary to anyone else’s liberation.

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@FinalOverdrive @eris bell hooks considers black men her oppressors I don’t think you understand her writings

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@eris @FinalOverdrive when you speak of patriarchy as a component of white supremacy it erases the struggles of thousands of years in places like China. Subjugation of people under men has been the norm in many societies around the world long before white supremacy was invented.

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@FinalOverdrive @eris if you don’t believe men are the oppressing class over women you simply aren’t a feminist at all. Patriarchy is a real system.

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